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Un-silent's avatar

It has been said that some of these men were Freemasons. Freemasons believe in a "higher power" and that is not necessarily a belief in Jesus Christ. It would be nice to know the whole truth.

Boris's avatar

More proof in stone of the fascist takeover too.

The Freemasons were/are also fascists. What we have now is a total merger of government and corporations, known as corporatism/fascism.

nps.gov/articles/secret-symbol-of-the-lincoln-memorial.htm

Mary's avatar

I always thought there was a mix of saints and scoundrels who founded the US government. Seems like concessions were met on both ends. Unlike today's typical bureaucrats. It's either all their way or no way.

Un-silent's avatar

I agree Mary, we are in a whole new ballgame now.

Boris's avatar

Yes, it seems that there was some sort of balance or 'stalemate' between the good and evil ones in the past, but now it seems that the evil ones have taken over.

Tirion's avatar

Freemasonry grew from an impulse created by The Knights Templar, who were/are Egyptian Gnostic Christians - ie, pre-Roman New Testament Christians. In the 1700s, freemasonry was infiltrated and corrupted by The Illuminati, who did/do not believe in the Roman Christian God and considered Roman Christianity irrational. Instead, they sought to replace it with a religion of reason, blending Enlightenment rationalism with influences from Jewish Kabbalah, Egyptian Hermeticism, alchemy, and Christian gnosticism.

Un-silent's avatar

There is no such thing as a "Gnostic Christian", one is either a gnostic or they follow Christ's teachings and are therefore a Christian. Gnostics are in opposition to Christianity.

Tirion's avatar

Don't be silly. Jesus was not the first Christian.

If you mean Gnostics are in opposition to Roman Christianity, I would agree with you.

https://search.brave.com/search?q=gnostic+christian&spellcheck=0&source=alteredQuery&summary=1&conversation=094d70db18df32100397ac4de1dab0bbe087

linda collins's avatar

Jesus wasn't a Christian. His followers were called Christians (Acts 11:26) "first in Antioch".

Tirion's avatar

Belief in a Christ (annointed one/messiah) is integral to Judaism. Jesus was a Jew. Presumably therefore Jesus, like Jews before him, believed in a Christ. In my book, he wasn't a Roman "Christian;" but he was a Christian. The concept of the Christ pre-dates Jesus.

Incidentally, at the same time that the Church was being founded in Antioch, Joseph of Arimathea, known in Wales as Saint Ilid, was founding a Church there, too, decades before King Caractacus and his family first took Christian beliefs to Rome, where Christian teachings were blended with sun worship/Mithraism to create Roman Catholicism. The beliefs of the Ancient British church were more Gnostic than Catholic. Catholicism did not arrive in Britain until 550 years later.

linda collins's avatar

Yes, Jesus was a Jew and was THE CHRIST--predicted to come for thousands of years--not "a Christ". A Christian is a follower of the Christ; therefore, Jesus was not a Christian.

Un-silent's avatar

Lol, "Jesus was not the first Christian"? The whole belief system is based on His teachings. There would be no Christianity without Him.

When you speak of "Roman Christianity" do you mean Catholicism? I don't see Catholicism as Christian either. Catholicism is a false religion.

Gnostics share nothing in common with those who have pure faith in the teachings and divinity of Jesus Christ. People have been trying to hijack the Way since the beginning. The reason being, is that Jesus is the real deal, the resurrected Son of God.

Tirion's avatar

At least we can agree about Catholicism!

Un-silent's avatar

Good, that's something.

Boris's avatar

This old article seems to contain much truth about the history of the US founding.

The 'Crown' probably didn't lose control of America.

Of course, it is still unproven to be either true or untrue.

https://steemit.com/all/@belisoful/the-templar-bar-crown-corporation-the-crown-temple-by-rule-of-mystery-babylon-city-of-london

Richard's avatar

We won the war but lost at the bargaining table afterward agreeing to pay England their costs for fighting the war making us slaves of money right from the start. Only Andrew Jackson slayed the beast that was begun with the Bank of England

Pam Ragland's avatar

Excellent article. Sometimes I have been frustrated with some of your criticisms of the Trump admin not because I believe he is a God, but because I know there is a greater mission, a higher power, and a higher purpose to everything he is doing. Even the "Iran war" which no is not Israel's bidding.

It has surprised me with your knowledge of the pharma takeover you don't see this. But again, you are only human.

This article restored my faith you do see there is a Marxist agenda and we are fighting a war to take over our great nation and thus the world.

Thanks for taking time to write it.

Tirion's avatar

Let's not forget the origins of Marxism: like Bolshevism, fascism and NAZIsm, it was created by Zionists in London (and America). Karl Marx, a louche snob, was in the pay of Nathan Rothschild and was anything but a Marxist himself.

The deceptions are very old, very deep and many layered.

The real question is who is hiding behind the Zionists?

Sharan K Harrison's avatar

Excellent article. Thank you for being a beacon of light-there is so much darkness out there.

Mary's avatar

You are loved Charlene and Tye for the truths you share.

Tirion's avatar

I think a lot of this depends on how you define "Christianity." Christianity is much older than the Roman church and its New Testament. Ideas like the virgin birth and the divinity of Christ are man made. Jesus was given divine status by the Roman church as a result of a VERY close vote at the Council of Nicea in AD 325.

There was a strong Templar/freemasonic influence on the founding of America. In those days, before freemasonry was infiltrated and corrupted by The Illuminati, it was still rooted in the Templar tradition, which was basically Egyptian Gnostic Christianity. The Essene sect, to which the real/original Jesus belonged, was also rooted in Egyptian Gnostic Christianity.

So it is probably true to say that at least some of the Founding Fathers were not believers in everything the Romans put in their New Testament; but that does not mean that they were not true Christians.

KNW3's avatar

You are of an anti-Christ spirit. Jesus is God Almighty and Jesus was Born of a virgin woman.

Tirion's avatar

Just the facts, ma'am. Just the facts.

KNW3's avatar

I’m a dude. But every knee will bow to Jesus Christ as Lord God Almighty. Repent while you have a chance. You are being used by the devil. Repent before it is too late. Jesus is God!!!

KNW3's avatar

The Bible warns us about you. those who deny Jesus is, God will see the wrath of God if you will not repent.

Richard's avatar

The liberty bell is considered a manifestation of our founding fathers defining pursuit of liberty. The bell is also a known symbol of the rosicrucians, pre freemasons. Seen and thought to be one thing but not seen for what really is. Hidden in plain sight. The bell has a crack in it. Happenstance? Or is it Devine rejection as if something is telling us it's not wholely true. Does Revelation chapter twelve describe baby America being devoured by the Dragon?

Shereena's avatar

This is completely unbelievable... my Bible says you shall know them by their fruits. The same constitution calls Native Americans "merciless savages" which was definitely there to justify genocide, which is unjust and sinful, since we are in the New Testament era. True Christians were commanded by Christ not to spread God's kingdom with physical violence.

The other human victims of this Constitution was the Hebrew Israelite slaves who had their labor stolen from them while perpetually suffering child rape, pedophilia, and sexual exploitation by the fake Christian slaveholders.

Theft and Pedophilia, and fake Christianity is the legacy of our founding fathers and Trump is the perfect representation of this heritage. America is the 2nd Beast of Revelation 17, A great whore empire ready to fall soon. - Esosa sospression.com

Tirion's avatar

Surely fake Christianity is the lagacy of Rome, not the Founding Fathers?

KC Braun's avatar

Boy, are you bought out. There were a lot of different groups that came over to the new land. There were good and bad. It was also a part of group survival to fight other groups to protect your own. Many Indian tribes were more viscous than others. It was standard to wipe out the men of the opposition and take on the women and children to boost your own group’s strength.

It is standard for soldiers of all nations to pray on their way into battle. Slaves in the American Colonies were from tribes that sold them to slave traders. None of these historic standards that you portray as unique to America’s founders remove the divine inspiration of the Constitution that gives citizens, what was unknown at the time, individual independence.

You must be a part of the conspiracy that spreads these hateful lies to try to eliminate the US and take away this independence, along with the Great Nation status that it has fostered. Nations controlled by a partisan government can’t accomplish this, so they have to steal it.

Richard's avatar

Freemasonry has changed over time. Before it was tied to the Rosicrucians. Both believed in a higher consciousness, not necessarily The Most High God the Father of Jesus Christ the Son. The layout, buildings (Washington Monument, for example) and statuary in DC are pagan Greek. Jefferson did not believe Jesus was God and crossed out his miracles in his bible. Many founders went to France and began that revolution translating Common Sense into French. It was the start of Revelations "little season." Other than a few flimsy words there is no evidence to support the belief they were truly Christian? It was a, man is god, attempt to achieve what tyrants and monarchs did not.

David Chere-Bolelwang's avatar

Such a profound and apostate departure from the founding principles as history attests, is beyond comparison, if what we are rading is 100% factual... The brutality and the hubris the US is known for warrants some degree of doubtful take on the supposed beliefs of the founding fathers.. (from Johannesburg)

Paula's avatar

Well this all sounds very well except for the fact that the United States of America were founded on stolen land and the slaughtering of native populations, besides importing slaves from Africa to extract profits from it all. Iin calling upon the Bible those "founders" should have first humbled and exposed their cause asking for pardon for all the evil done and including large representation of the native inhabitants by birthright in such "virtuous and libertarian" Constitution.

Richard's avatar

If you read The Suppressed History of America, The Murder of Meriwether Lewis and the Mysterious Discoveries of the Lewis and Clark Expedition by Schrag and Haze + many other books, you'll discover tall blonde blue eyed people were here long before the Indians. Covered up by the Smithsonian to keep the evolution narrative going amongst other purposes.

Tirion's avatar

One of the reasons it's covered up is the legal principle of "terra nullius," under which America was settled after Columbus. The principle basically says that if you discover an empty land, you can claim it as yours. The "Indians" did not count because they were not Christians; but if there had been a British settlement prior to Columbus, then Columbus could not claim it. In fact Queen Elizabeth I did contest Columbus's claim on the basis of King Arthur's prior colony.

After Britain was devastated by The Dragon Comet around AD 562, around AD 573 King Arthur led a fleet of around 600 ships to found a colony in America where some of his people could settle and wait for the soil in Britain to recover from the ravages of the comet. In due course, many of the settlers returned to Britain, but many stayed, which explains why post-1492 settlers encountered "natives" speaking the British (ie, Welsh) language. These Ancient British settlers were not in America before the "Indians;" but they were in America more than 900 years before Columbus's voyage of so-called "Discovery."

Dr Lee Pennington on America's hidden history:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrdVSlaBDJ4

Richard's avatar

I agree with everything you said. However the history of these tall, sometimes giant, blue eyed blonde or red headed individuals goes back far beyond that time period. Who built the pyramids, the Sphinx, Gobekli Tepe etc? Who are the gods of the Greeks, Romans, Sumerians? They are the ones that traveled the world influencing and establishing civilization world wide. They experimented with Gods creation waring amongst themselves, a war of the gods even creating their own humanoid slave labor force developing human prototypes until God created Adam. The war in heaven has been brought to earth between the races created by the fallen angels versus the race created by God. The fallen angels corrupted Gods plan in the garden seducing Eve. Ever since the recessive gene is carried by the race of Adam expressing itself from time to time. That's why there were two nations, Jacob and Esau in Rebekah's womb. Our pursuit of the Kingdom is plagued by a seed war. Adams race versus the corrupted seed from Gadrael plus the races created by the fallen Elohim. This where my search has brought me. My God bless your search.

Tirion's avatar

Oh yes, that which is hidden goes back a great deal further than King Arthur's time, for sure! The deceptions are very old, very deep and many layered.

Don't some claim that the Hebrews themselves came to Earth as refugees from the ancient cosmic war that destroyed the planet Tiamat, created the asteroid belt and rendered their planet, Mars, uninhabitable? IIRC, they were allowed in by Yahweh (or whoever was in command at the time) on condition that they were not to have their own territory, in case they destroyed that as well!

Blessings to you, too πŸ™πŸ»

Susan V's avatar

That’s a really good point.

Paula's avatar

Well, where is the virtue and where is the liberty in the underlying public historical fact that the United States of America were founded on stolen land and slaughtering of the native populations besides importing slaves from Africa to profit from it... in the name of their superior God?

KC Braun's avatar

Your β€œfacts” are BS. It was standard at that time period for groups to settle any land that they came upon that was unoccupied. Every country in Europe and the rest of the world came upon their property the same way. The Indians did not settle their land, for the most part. They moved from place to place on a continent that was much more than they could ever settle. Many of the tribes instigated violence against any groups that they encountered. Most β€œslaughter” was colonists defending their own people and when peace was established, the tribes were given lands to settle on their own. There were better and worse tribes. As for slaves, many times they were traded or sold to slave traders by their own tribes to get rid of them. God is God. God created everything, good and bad. All men were created as sinners. And people like you were apparently created to bend the truth. Are you with the ones trying to steal America?

Paula's avatar

Maybe you are. As for me I am an Italian Mother and we on this side of the earth are sick of american Imperialism, we are sick of the american - corrupt and aggressive - way, and only a folle or fool could still believe in the american "dream" a nightmare rather!! The fact that the natives did not "claim" the land maybe means that they respected and lived in holy communion with mother nature and moved according to the seasonal abundance of resources to support their small sustainable tribes. While the "holy founding fathers" believed in land grab by armed attack. Still to this day. You never learn despite calling on your own Constitution.

Natural Law Warrior's avatar

Man's law is garbage, including the CONstitution.

KNW3's avatar

Funny how you are quiet about Candace Owen’s and how evil she is speaking against Erika Kirk. You sure were in your conspiracy theories. But now all of a sudden you are silent because you know they were all fake. Speak up and tell everyone where you stand now. You shouldn’t be so quick to tell lies.

KNW3's avatar

Funny how you are quiet about Candace Owen’s and how evil she is speaking against Erika Kirk. You sure were in your conspiracy theories. But now all of a sudden you are silent because you know they were all fake. Speak up and tell everyone where you stand now. You shouldn’t be so quick to tell lies.

linda collins's avatar

I'm glad someone finally addressed this "separation of church and state" ideology and addressed it very thoroughly and well. I've known it to be untrue for a long time and so frustrating to hear people quote it as if it were in the Constitution. Only critique I have is directed to Roger Sherman's statement: The New Testament says baptism is necessary for the remission of sins. Acts 22:16 is one verse among many others: "And now why do you wait, arise and be baptized for the remission of your sins calling on the name of the Lord."

ElleVΓ­en's avatar

What of the Masonic Symbolism Surrounding the Capital... the Hoover Dam, etc... ? Dig deeper... there is more to be known. As well, respectfully β€” America is NOT 'Free.' We have been systematically programmed into 'believing' in a freedom that does not exist.

They made a mockery of this year β€˜celebration of freedom’ β€” to the point of humiliation β€” as the world is on FIRE. The massacre & genocide of innocents across the world β€” at the hands of OUR government β€” and OUR tax dollars β€” is disgraceful. How dare they.

I hold no pride in my heart for this America. I hold no sides in politics of a nation gone rogue. I stand only for humanity, and the protection and love of all people across the globe. Our government is a LIE in all that it has become. Governments ARE the REAL TERRORISTS of this world.

Stand for HUMANITY… the only β€˜war’ worth fighting for β€” for the Children of our Father β€” the creator of all life. May the Wrath of God Be Our Strength His Wisdom Our Guide.

Godspeed βœžπŸ•Š

Matt's avatar

I really do not want to give unnecessary offence, especially since you do a lot of good work and I support your mission, but here I draw the line: do we really need those horrible AI generated images everywhere now? Do you want to invoke a sense of trash fake garbage upon the viewers?

Is AI slop really the right tool in an article about actual historicity?